Chris Hoyt: So Johnny, I hear you had a rave at your place this week.
Johnny Campbell: Man, I had a rave I didn’t want. Actually, this is a funny story. My eldest boy turned 17 yesterday, and he had a party last week with about 25 or 26 of his friends over. We did the same thing for his 16th.
So in Ireland, just for context, the legal drinking age is 18—but of course, you start at least two years before that like everywhere else. At 17, we were like, “Okay, your friends can have some beers. Just be responsible and don’t trash the place.”
My wife and I tried to sit in the front room and watch The Morning Show. That didn’t work. About every 30 minutes, a new teenager would show up—usually because they’d had too much to drink and their friends brought them in to sober up. They’d sit down with us and share all the gossip—who’s kissing who, who did what. It was super interesting. My wife was loving it.
Everything went fine. They all left just after midnight, and about six lads stayed the night at our house. I went to bed around 1:00 AM. At 3:00 AM, I wake up—with earplugs in, mind you—and I can hear music. I throw on a t-shirt, go downstairs, open the kitchen door, and the music’s blasting.
There are six—what I can only describe as Neanderthals—standing around my kitchen island with no shirts on, beers in hand, just dancing with the music at full blast. And no child of mine was even present—he was asleep.
I completely lost it. Let’s just say I wasn’t the most responsible with my language. I threw around some threats and acted like the old man. I killed the rave. I killed the party. I mean, at 3:00 AM, who are these people?
Chris Hoyt: At any point, did you yell at anyone to get off your lawn?
Johnny Campbell: It was more like, “Get the hell outta my house!” I don’t even have a lawn anymore—we paved it. I got sick of cutting grass. Oh yeah, I became my dad. Very much so.
Chris Hoyt: It’s funny how that happens. Tyler, no rave busting for you this past week?
Tyler Green: No rave busting. Just good old-fashioned soccer on Saturday mornings with the kids. Getting them to actually run and put in effort has been a challenge. I’ve got a bunch of girls out there going, “Do we have to run?” So yeah, just trying to motivate them to play.
Megan Goeltz: On my end, we had a parents’ weekend with a nice luncheon and some sorority and fraternity tailgates ahead of the football game on Saturday. That was fun.
Johnny Campbell: Are those tailgates crazy, Megan? As the non-American on the call, how wild do they get?
Megan Goeltz: They can get wild, but really, it’s just that the party starts early. You can start tailgating at noon for a 6:00 PM game—or earlier.
Johnny Campbell: Wow. Well, speaking of games, we’ve got the NHL opening game in Dublin this weekend. My kids were like, “Why, Dad?” And honestly, I have absolutely no idea.
Megan Goeltz: You’ve had college football over there too, haven’t you?
Johnny Campbell: Yeah, every summer the last few years. But this is our first NHL game in Dublin. We’re awash with Americans this weekend—drinking the Kool-Aid.
Megan Goeltz: As if you don’t get enough of us already, right?
Johnny Campbell: Hey, you’re always welcome, Megan. You’re contributing to the economy this time at least.
Tyler Green: I think you also have an NFL game this weekend too, if I’m not mistaken. The Steelers and Vikings are playing in Ireland?
Johnny Campbell: Are they? See how much I know about sports, Tyler—next to zero.
Tyler Green: When you’re in a couple of fantasy leagues, you’ve got to pay attention to who’s playing where and when so you don’t mess up your lineup.
Johnny Campbell: I’ll give you that.
Announcer: Welcome to the Recruiting Community Podcast, the go-to channel for talent acquisition leaders and practitioners. This show is brought to you by CXR, a trusted community of thousands connecting the best minds in the industry to explore topics like attracting, engaging, and retaining top talent. Hosted by Chris Hoyt and Jerry Crispin. We are thrilled to have you join the conversation.
Chris Hoyt: Welcome everybody to the Recruiting Community Podcast. We’re super excited to bring talent acquisition leaders and practitioners into the space to really talk about what’s going on in their world—what’s top of mind for them, what’s keeping them up at night.
This is a fun one. We’ve been doing quarterly research for a little over a year now. We bring together a panel of 30 to 50 practitioners and influencers. We pick a hot topic and spend five weeks diving into it. At the end, we usually publish a series of blogs and a paper.
This time, we partnered with Johnny Campbell from SocialTalent to co-facilitate. Johnny, you want to set the stage for what the research was and why this was an interesting topic? We’ve got some guests here to talk about the output.
Johnny Campbell: Absolutely. We wanted to explore AI usage in TA, specifically focused on interviews—what problems are we trying to solve?
There are lots of tools and technologies emerging. Candidates are using tech too. But what’s the core problem? Where’s the pain?
Interestingly, we didn’t anchor on just one issue. Some focused on compliance, others on quality, speed, or bias. Everyone experienced it differently and had different tech and non-tech solutions.
The group also asked: are there non-tech solutions to these problems? And that was really interesting. But some core themes emerged—concerns around interview quality, compliance, bias, and the legal risk that comes with it.
There’s also concern about AI assistance on the candidate side—are we keeping up? And while tools are out there, adoption varies greatly. Some folks can’t get anything past Copilot, while others are using tools like Paradox or ChatGPT regularly.
So yeah, lots of insight. I’m sure Megan and Tyler will share more of their perspectives as we dive in.
Chris Hoyt: Great setup. Megan, why don’t you give us the elevator pitch of who you are and what you do? You’re in a super interesting role.
Megan Goeltz: Thanks, Chris and Johnny. I’m Megan Goeltz with EY. I’ve spent my entire career here—started as an intern in our audit and tax practices, then moved into talent acquisition. Most recently, I took on a new role as a futurist and head of transformation for our function.
That means staying ahead of what’s coming—tech, AI agents, the future of work—and helping us evolve and optimize talent acquisition. It’s about creating that human-centric, tech-led experience for candidates, while advising the business. The pace of change is unlike anything we’ve seen before, and I don’t think it’s slowing down.
Chris Hoyt: It does feel like every six to eight years, something new hits TA at a hundred miles an hour. Tyler, how about a quick intro?
Tyler Green: Thanks, Chris. I’m Tyler Green. I’ve been with Gallo for about 13 years and lead recruitment operations—our tech stack. Like Megan said, it’s about staying current with AI, automation, and new tech while keeping a human-centric touch.
We’re focused on improving efficiency so recruiters can be strategic advisors, not just order-takers. We’re investing in tools like interview intelligence, Paradox, and more to free up time and get better outcomes.
Chris Hoyt: Love it. More from this conversation—and a whole lot more on AI, interview intelligence, adoption barriers, candidate experiences, and quality-of-hire data—continues throughout the episode and is detailed in the full report.
Anyone interested in downloading the report can grab it at cxr.org/research.
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Thanks for listening!
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