S4 E39 | CXR 25 – “Fans” before they were “Members” with Chris & Kristen Weirick


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Chris Hoyt 0:22
How ya been?

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 0:24
Awesome just having a ball.

Chris Hoyt 0:29
Oh, nice and you’re you’re sort of enjoying the enjoying the stay at home pandemic state of work,

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 0:36
Or lack of, that’s even funner

Chris Hoyt 0:39
Just timeout the timeout from work.

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 0:41
Yeah, like I don’t know if you can so here’s like, my view is that that’s all water.

Chris Hoyt 0:47
Oh that’s so amazing.

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 0:50
Yeah, did a nice you know, kind of two plus mile lake swim today.

Chris Hoyt 0:55
Oh man

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 0:57
running, biking. It’s just it’s been awesome.

Chris Hoyt 0:59
I’m not a swimmer. I don’t know that I could do two plus laps. But I’m down with the bike riding

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 1:05
You shouldn’t you shouldn’t start with two plus miles

so

Chris Hoyt 1:09
Something a little shorter I did. I did just a little getaway in Tahoe. I got a race happen in Tahoe we went and stayed there for about a week and did mountain biking and hiking and had a boat out on the lake.

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 1:21
Yeah.

Chris Hoyt 1:22
Which was a lot of fun, but, and for the first time ever, I did stand up paddleboarding.

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 1:28
Oh, how’d you like it?

Chris Hoyt 1:29
I enjoyed it. I actually didn’t fall off. I was really excited about not falling

You were not testing yourself. If you haven’t fallen off.

There were there were a couple of wobbly moments. The jet skis that kept going by weren’t social distancing enough for me. A lot of waves that I couldn’t

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 1:46
Like a hundred feet.

Chris Hoyt 1:48
Maybe that’s why I went to a remote cabin in Tahoe I didn’t want to be around and

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 1:51
If you get a board that’s wide enough, they’re pretty stable.

Chris Hoyt 1:55
Yeah,

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 1:56
It’s the narrow or ones that you really have to you know, kind of do the balance that

Chris Hoyt 2:00
Yeah, I think my balance was a little easier when I was 65 pounds heavier. I think it was a little easier for me to maybe be stable on the board easier, but

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 2:09
Well, depends on how that weight is distributed. I mean, if you’re a Weibull, then yes, that is a

Chris Hoyt 2:15
It’s all above the neck, all the heavy weights. big giant Lego head.

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 2:20
I want to see that.

Chris Hoyt 2:23
Well, you know, CXR, we’re putting a couple of these calls together, base with friends and alumni and members, because CareerXroads is now 25 years old,

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 2:33
Insane.

Chris Hoyt 2:34
Its crazy!

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 2:35
It is slightly younger than my children. But that’s, that’s a big benchmark variant.

Chris Hoyt 2:43
Well, you have been a part of CXR. A couple of different companies. How How long do you think you have collectively been a member at CareerXroads? Well, I was a fan before I was a member but

That’s my hair club. That’s my hair club line. Right? Yeah.

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 3:00
Oh, sorry, I didn’t even know that one

Chris Hoyt 3:01
I was a member before was the president. Yeah,

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 3:03
I remember. So when I first became aware of CareerXroads, this is I’m totally gonna date myself. It was the late 90s. And I still have my CareerXroads book. Like think back to when, you know, in order to know where to go on the internet when Mark and Gerry wrote the CareerXroads book, tada, I got it one of these guys, I need to get my copy signed. But it was like that was like the Bible. I was running an outplacement center. And, you know, it was when we called what we now called recruiting, ecruiting and that was like, oh, what, where do I go? And so that was, that was a big deal. And then the first time I was actually presenting at an ERE conference, yeah, and Mark walked up to me at the end of my presentation to introduce himself and you know it’s suddenly exclusive you know it’s an exclusive invite to the list but you know we’d like you to consider and I was like oh my god..

Chris Hoyt 4:13
You’ve arrived

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 4:15
I know I know it even before that my other favorite memory I was in my boss’s office who at the time was Jason Hannel, Who runs Hannel and Associates and Gerry called him and so he was chatting with Gerry on the phone ever forgetting I got that I’m like, you know him?

Chris Hoyt 4:40
I read you know, I have a sort of a similar a little bit a little bit after it must have been. I think in 2000 is when I started picking up the books

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 4:50
Yeah, all right, same time

Chris Hoyt 4:52
Right and figuring out what where, where am I gonna post my jobs and how do I find people on this crazy online recruiting thing and get out of my Rolodex. And I remember bumping into same for me, I bumped into Gerry I think at an ERE. Like Who’s this cat in the hat?

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 5:10
He makes an impression. The whole persona.

Chris Hoyt 5:15
Yeah, he’s got a little thing going, didn’t he? Well, do you have I mean, outside of remembering sort of how you met Mark Miller and Gerry Crispin, obviously, the guys who, who founded this thing we call CXR I mean do you,

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 5:27
Oh I remember the first time I saw you, too, so just say, you know,

Chris Hoyt 5:30
Me? it had to be somewhere a lot of fun. I’m sure it was a nightclub or

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 5:34
No, no it was not, but it was very nightclub ish, like because it was it had to be like 2007-2008 LinkedIn conference, they had this really cool like, I think Magic Johnson was one of the speakers. And you were on stage and I was like, Who’s that guy?

Chris Hoyt 6:00
He doesn’t have the hat, He needs a hat.

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 6:02
No hat or anything. I think you were with Pepsi back in the day.

I was I remember meeting Magic Johnson that was super cool, very tall guy.

That’s strange for a basketball player,

Unknown Speaker 6:12
right?

Chris Hoyt 6:12
Right? It’s very weird. Not a tall guy myself, I can appreciate that.

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 6:16
Yeah, I could see that.

Chris Hoyt 6:17
Well, so do you have a favorite memory over the last you know X amount of years that you’ve been involved with CXR are like from whether a meeting or a dinner sadly, the one that comes to mind was a after the colloquium dinner, and I probably shouldn’t lead with this, but let’s go there. It was. It was in Chicago. And it was back when I was with Whirlpool, and I did a presentation on the exceptional candidate experience. So once again, it has to be about you know, 2008 ish.

That’s really early. I mean, Kristen, that’s super early on to be doing candidate experience though.

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 6:54
I think it was maybe the first one whoever even like, like, connected the dots on you know, we started candidate gifting and reinforcing our brand with, you know what we were giving away and thinking through the whole experience. In any case, I did this thing I candidate experience. And that night we all went to dinner and I think it was, it was the dinner that Mark said afterward was when they started saying, we need to ask you if you want more wine instead of just pouring it. We ended we all ended up at the dueling piano bar in downtown Chicago and there were people on the pianos it was free

Chris Hoyt 7:38
Howl at the moon is that what it is? Howl at the moon

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 7:41
Yeah, so that was probably one of the funnest nights, but it was just so many. I mean, whenever I I literally was just consulting with a company last week and the team, just pretty junior team and I’m like, You guys gotta get some external perspective. Where do what what should we do? You need to get into CareerXroads because you just need to connect with other people that are in the space, you know, where, you know, the glossy presentations are kind of stripped out. And it’s just real people talking about real challenges and real solutions and what’s worked for them. And you know, what hasn’t, which is most important. And I think there’s just far too many kind of professional connections to be able to say, oh, there’s just this one thing.

Chris Hoyt 8:27
Yeah. Yeah, I think so. So, A, if you have a picture of Mark Mailer on a dueling piano, I really, really like it.

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 8:36
He was smart enough to not as was I smart enough to not get on the piano, although Gerry swears that he saw me on the piano, but in any case, I don’t think I got up there.

Chris Hoyt 8:46
Hmm but what about with the big giant punchbowl rum drinks? They do? Maybe Maybe we’ve got one where everybody’s drinking.

There’s no

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 8:54
I think I saw the impacts of social media early

Chris Hoyt 8:59
Smart, very smart lady,

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 9:01
Every now and then I make a good choice.

Chris Hoyt 9:02
So I, you know, I would agree with you i think when I was a member before I was the president, right, so my hair cut line, it was probably I think six or it was probably early on one of the best networking events I could send my people to, like, by far like I think, second, second maybe to LinkedIn. Second, maybe to the LinkedIn, me just because of the volume.

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 9:23
Yeah, LinkedIn, there is volume. But you have to know how to navigate all of everything that is the LinkedIn.

Chris Hoyt 9:31
Yeah. Well, not everybody gets a handler, a LinkedIn handler assigned to them, to help them navigate that. But yeah, I used to love hearing the team come back and say, “Oh, my God, we’re not as far ahead as we thought we were or oh my gosh, we’re not as far behind.”

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 9:47
We’re not that bad.

Chris Hoyt 9:49
Yeah, we’re doing okay. We’re doing okay. That’s fun stuff. So do you have an idea of how many meetings that you’ve probably been to

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 9:58
I, you know, I don’t a lot

Chris Hoyt 10:03
We’ve all we’ve only recently gone digital in the last five or six years from a tracking perspective. I know if we had if we had good old Mark on the line, he would probably whip up an Excel spreadsheet or a Word doc

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 10:14
I still have so in my collection of CareerXroads memorabilia, remember, I don’t know if you remember this, but the years that Mark would get the like wooden books that

Chris Hoyt 10:28
Oh, yeah

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 10:28
He would hold out and it had all the CDs and presentations. Yeah.

Chris Hoyt 10:33
So it’s funny that you bring that up so I have a kaleidoscope. I have some socks. They’ve never been worn they’re lovely socks that I got from a meeting I have. What else do I have? I certainly have the the books which I found fascinating. You slide them out and there there was something else he did for a while.

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 10:50
Oh, wine glasses since I believe last time we did uh, yeah, I got the the wine glasses there where I’ve got hand carved, crafted picture frames. I’ve got the key ring that also doubles as a whistle, you know,

Chris Hoyt 11:08
Oh I don’t have that.

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 11:09
I got that like, literally, I could probably have their wrist scarves like silk ish kind of scarves I can. I’ve got a whole collection.

Chris Hoyt 11:17
Oh my god, I think I might have the scarf somewhere.

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 11:19
Yeah. Yeah. Now, were we ever at the same because they were called colloquiums. Back in the day, were we ever at the same colloquium. That would, that would be one memory banks.

Chris Hoyt 11:31
I am confident I remember when I first sat down with Mark and the initial talks, you know, where I was going to buy CXR and, and he pulls out these papers. And his the way his mind works, it’s just fantastic. But he had these papers of like everybody who had been to a meeting before and they’re listed and if they were in, I think it was if they were in bold, they’d been more than one meeting. And if they were in italics, they pitch another mind blowing, but it would be really fascinating. I’m sure he’s mailed them to me somewhere. Yeah, but it would be very fascinating to maybe get somebody to go through and sort of tally all of those.

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 12:05
Yeah. Yeah. Cuz you know, there’s got to be a long list of people who you’re still talking to, and then kind of looking at who are all those folks who’ve just gone off and I don’t know, are doing something, but

Chris Hoyt 12:18
Well, yeah, you’ve got we’ve got folks who were, you know, in an operations meet while we weren’t doing operations back then. But who were maybe in an analytics meeting or something like that, who are now running functions and running positions, which is exciting.

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 12:30
Yeah.

Chris Hoyt 12:31
Cool. Well, I look, I don’t have a scarf for you. I don’t have a wooden book for you. However, I am going to be sending to you tonight. What is a new friends and alumni challenge coin like,

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 12:44
Oh that’s a special one

Chris Hoyt 12:46
Yeah, as a way for just sort of celebrating 25 years. We’re sending these to folks that were jumping on the linewidth and just saying, you know, tell us your favorite meme you talk to us about, you know, what’s been going on for 25 plus years. So I want to say thanks for jumping on and sort of sharing the moment with us and we’ll mail it out to you

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 13:01
Oh well happy to do it you guys have given me not only lots of really good nuggets to bring back to the companies that I worked for but also great friendships and memories so for that I thank ya’ll,

Chris Hoyt 13:14
For sure for sure. Well, I can’t wait until everything calms down we get a new normal we can get back into into work I’m not sure

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 13:21
That will be interesting yeah, it’s gonna

Chris Hoyt 13:23
Well yeah, that’s a whole that’s a whole nother call for us but I am excited to see what you do next and I just can’t wait to see when you decide to get back in and work and what you decide to do.

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 13:32
Yeah, it will um, That’ll be something on the horizon. We’ll just wait and see.

Chris Hoyt 13:36
Nice well until then. You know, like my friend Dora says Just keep swimming

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 13:40
Uh not a problem. Probably we’ll do it again tomorrow.

Chris Hoyt 13:43
I’ll talk to you soon.

Kristen Weirick, Formerly with United Airlines 13:44
All right, bye.


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